NO means No in that the sense you can’t proceed in the face of a No, that does not mean you can’t ever ask again. How many relations won’t exist if we never asked again.
Ha fucking ha.
Putting pressure on a woman to have sex to produce children and reducing her to a uterus on legs is fucking hilarious. Coercive sex is rape. And rape is not funny. I just can't have a sense of humour about rape jokes? Saying No to Lisbon and No to sex - these things are not the same.
The commenter probably didn't mean to joke about rape but I'm still calling it out. One in four children suffer sexual abuse. One in three women under the age of 40 has been raped at least once. It's shocking to read especially in a political thread.
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I don't condone rape in any terms, but you shouldn't turn the slightest comment into a direct attack on you personally, or twist what the person was trying to say.
As I read it, if you're with a girl and she says no, it doesn't mean you should never ask the question again. I've heard no many a time and yet I've never raped someone.
I know you've personal experience of this, but please don't turn innocuous comments into "OMG HE SAID RAPE WAS OK", it doesn't show you in a positive light.
I don't mean to be hurtful by saying this, feel free to delete the comment if you feel I am.
Well Anonymous, I'm not hurt but I am contemptuous. When you say "I don't condone rape in any terms, but..." that is condoning rape. Thing is I don't have to twist it. That you can't see that is your failing not mine.
I know you came from twitter and searched through the "rape" tag on your mac. Were you looking for something to be offended by? You did spend 40 minutes looking at an old post - four months old.
Also I don't give a shit what light you see me in. You didn't even have the guts to make up a fake name.
Buh bye
Oh shit yeah, because anything that precedes the word "But" is automatically true.
"I don't like war, but Hitler was a bad guy".
I obviously love war.
You talk about not twisting, and yet that was your first point? Get over yourself.
We searched for "rape" to see what you had to say on the subject. Would it be cathartic ranting, discussion of rape, or something else? It's pretty varied, I'll give you that.
Oh man, I'm so intimidated by your use of apache logs/visitor stats/google analytics/whatever. I was using Safari on 1440x900 at my friend's house before, I'm at my own house now (can you tell what browser, OS and resolution I'm using?). I've a habit of opening pages and leaving them open, don't take that as an indication I read anything (I honestly don't remember what it was - as I don't have access to the history, I can't check).
Odd, we thought you might prefer seeing "Anonymous", rather than an obviously fake name (why does that require guts? Here's one - "Harold Suther"), but to each their own.
We came to your site through twitter while reading about the budget - calling for a strike when you yourself can't strike is fucking stupid. I may aswell say "Everyone give their money to poor people!! I can't though, I've got rent to pay...".
Finally, the way you attacked me personally, pointed out my browser referrer etc, and then just insulted me, reminds me of the right-wing conservative talk show hosts in America.
Don't engage, just attack!
Oh by the way, I searched through the rape tag this time as I couldn't remember the name of the post, but could remember the tag, and wanted to see if you'd posted a thoughtful and worth rebuttal, or had just gone all-out attack.
You attacked.
Well Anonymous, you are the one who implied that I was over sensitive in your first comment. You told me what I should think about "the slightest comment".
I'm willing to engage in a discussion on the social acceptability of rape jokes and the rape culture that we live in. But I will not engage in a discussion of what you appear to consider my over sensitivity.
Thing is, one in every three women under the age of 40 has been raped. One in thirteen men has been raped. One in four children has been raped. Making rape jokes in a political discussion has the potential to trigger a post traumatic stress episode in a significant proportion of the readership. Rape jokes in politics is not ok. And women are not walking wombs. Those were the basic points I was making.
Anonymous comments are usually the mark of the troll who hates the revelation of any identifying data. Maybe you aren't that guy but declaring what you think I should think is the mark of a troll.
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